Name: Chuhar Singh Jandu
PA Number: PA2671/4/17
Ref: C2C/180705/INT/07
Date of Interview: 18 July 2005
Date of Birth: 1947
Origin: Jullundar, Punjab, India
Gender: Male
Religion: Sikh
Caste: Ramgarhia
Came to England: 25 December 1956
Came to Coventry: December 1956
Language of Interview: English
Timing: 15.59-16.58
15:59
My name is Chuhar Singh Jandu, that's the name, and I'm getting on to 59 now.
When were you born?
I was born in 1947, in the district Jullundar in Punjab. In 1956, on Christmas Day, I came over to England. My first experience of being in England was that there was about two foot snow around Heathrow airport. Due to lack of communication between my uncle and us, he didn't get the message that we were arriving on this day.
16:00
I had come with my aunty who had been looking after me ever since I was a baby; she brought me up and adopted me later in life. While we were stuck, we panicked at the airport. Then fortunately we met one of my uncle's friends who happened to be at the airport meeting some other relatives. He put us up for two nights in London while my uncle made the journey from Coventry to London to fetch us. I was only about 9 and a half or 10 at that time.
16:01
After the Christmas holidays I joined John Gulson School in Leicester Causeway in Coventry and there I went for about one year. Then I went to Broad Street Secondary Modern Boy's School. Because I couldn't speak English very well at that time, there was a problem with studying, and it wasn't very long, took me about two years before I could speak enough English to get by. Not fluent, but enough to start reading and writing. I studied for 4 years at Broad Street School. I was quiet healthy at that time and started playing Rugby for the school team.
16:02
When we were playing for the last year, under 15's, I encountered a lot of discrimination, because I happened to be the only Asian chap playing for the school team. There was another one but he had left two years before me. Due to internal discrimination I had to pack up playing Rugby and I had to stop. Rugby is something which is teamwork; you cannot express your ability on the ground on the field as an individual. So if you don't get the ball, you can't score!
The word got round to the headmaster and he called me into his study, the headmasters room and I explained it to him.
16:03
I said this is the experience I'm getting on the field, and I can't play for the school, simple as that, and there's no way you can go around telling every schoolchild not to discriminate. At that time, people used to leave school at 15, and I left school at 15 because my father wanted me to work, so we could get more money. We had a lot of family problem and sickness, and being the eldest I had to leave school to support my family. I've got 2 brothers and sisters. My real mother died when I was about twelve years old and my father he suffered from illness as well.
16:04
He suffered for a long long time, he had asthma and bronchitis which led to heart attacks, blood pressure and brain haemorrhage, that's how life was.
Do you remember any nuns coming to teach English at Broad Street School?
I can't remember nun's coming there. There were only about 10 or 12 Asian kids. We were brought up in the same way.
16:05
We were taught Christianity, there was no teaching of other cultures or other languages in schools them days. It was normal practice, as soon as everybody got to their classrooms, 5 minutes later everybody gathered into the main hall to say prayers for 15 or 20 minutes. Then sing songs of praise from the Bible.
How did you feel about that?
Well, at that time, my personal belief was that I am not a very strict religious person. I learn about other religions as much as I learn about Sikhism.
16:06
In which way I think it broadens my mind, rather than being a narrow minded person. See when we came here, there was only very few Asian people altogether in Coventry anyway. There mostly was Punjabi's, and very few Muslims. I say we could count them on two hands about 15 20 Muslim people at that time, and they didn't have any families. Out of the 200 people I can remember of Asian origin living in Coventry, there were only about 20 families. Then more and more people started to come. Then the Africans, in 1961 and 62 started getting their independence, like Kenya.
16:07
The people from there came over here, rather than go back to India; only very few went back to India. Because there was British passport holder's kin East Africa, they came over and more and more people came over here and we started building our religious places then.
What was the reason behind you migrating?
I migrated because my uncle was here before us. He migrated in 1953, the end of 1953. My uncle was my father's brother, because he had no children of his own and my aunty had adopted me and so I came with her.
16:08
That's why I grew up here.
You came because of the family connections; do you know how they came about living in Coventry?
Well I would say, like the majority of people who came to England those days, in order to better themselves financially. Mostly in India they had very little to do so they thought they'd migrate and find work here to better themselves. My father wasn't here, he was sick so he stayed in India, then he came over after I did, about 5 or 6 years later. There was no restriction on him coming, but because of health reasons he didn't want to come.
16:09
What were your first impressions of England? Were you surprised, had you heard anything about it before you came?
Well being a child at that time, you see, I had very little vision of England, how it would be. Well it was completely different from the village life I had been living in India. When I cam here, rather then having mud huts like back in the Punjab there was more or less all brick buildings. Obviously that's something to do with the weather; here the weather is much different so the buildings had to be completely different. I can still remember, it wasn't like the roads and houses we have now. At that time, there were smaller houses, didn't even have bathrooms in them.
16:10
There were no washing room facilities. There was only one gas hob for cooking and there used to be chimney fires. Most of our Asian people, to economise themselves, used to use the coal fire for cooking to save them the gas. Because the ladies came from India, they were not familiar with using gas either, so they put the chapatti-making pan onto the coal fires and used the fire for heating the house and cooking as well.
Your family did this, your aunt?
16:11
Well I can remember my aunt, a lot of the families, when we used to go around to their houses, were there were a few kids and their mothers used to do the same thing.
What was the roti like?
Well the roti had a bit of ash on it. I can remember in our house on Henrietta Street, a two bedroom house, just one living room, and one kitchen and dinning. I can remember about a dozen people living there at any one time.
Was this the first house you lived in?
No I lived in Russell Street, the old houses have now been demolished there. Half of the street is made in to the hospital car park now. We lived there for two years then we moved into Henrietta Street.
16:12
As I grew up, I went to India when I was about 20, I got married and I came back and put the deposit on the house where we are living now. When I left school I started working as a warehouse salesman, which was paper and paint. I worked there fore about 2 years. It used to be a wallpaper warehouse in Hillfields, called Bright Walls. This was in 1961/2.
16:13
I can remember, walking there. It was the worst winter I can remember. For about 2 months there was snow. It was the longest snow covered time. We used to walk to work. The wages were low. Started at £5 a week, 44 hours. Out of which I had to pay taxation for 12 shillings.
What was it like working there?
Work wise I was fairly happy.
16:14
From there then I started to think, I was young, and I wasn't getting anywhere. When I left school I wanted to be an electrical engineer but as soon as I started, went for my first job interview, I started getting discrimination. So I went to the careers office. The careers officer sent me for an interview. As soon as I opened the door I could see from their faces that they didn't want a black person walking through the door. They made their excuses and said the job has been filled.
16:15
It was very similar to most of the older people who have been here; they've been discriminated quiet a lot. In the factory they never used to give them any skilled work. Mostly because they weren't educated. As time went by, people started getting more and more educated, but the discrimination was still there. Some people have been lucky, they've never been discriminated, but I've found it all through my life where I've had the experience of being discriminated quiet frequently.
So how did you manage to progress?
You see while I was working at this decorator's shop I went to the careers officer. Then I got another mechanical engineering job.
16:16
At what used to be Beale Morris, it's been demolished now. Used to be in Ball Hill up Britain Road. I was supposed to start working as a mechanical engineering apprentice-ship. But the factory changed their policy, the senior foreman who had employed me and promised me this work was made redundant. 3 months later, is replacement didn't want to know. So I was stuck doing general engineering work for 6 months. Then I went and joined and other engineering firm and stared work there as a general engineer. This was Keela White Hydraulics in Payne's Lane.
16:17
It's no longer there now it's been moved out. While I was working there I had a good chat with the, manager there and he said because I hadn't started there as a trainee; they didn't have a policy there for trainees, but he was kind enough to give me day release. Then I started taking one day and about 4 evenings to do may O-Levels at Henley College.
Which year was this?
I studied there from 1964 to 66/67. Took about 7/ 8 O-Levels. Then I went to India to get married, came back. Then I was made redundant (16:18) then I was on the job hunt again. Because I had O Levels, and there was a chemical company in Courtaulds and they were advertising for laboratory assistants. I applied there and two weeks later I got a refusal. Then a week later I had a letter calling me for an interview, same firm; and they took me on! I started working shifts after the initial training, which paid me about £15 a week. I worked there for about 18 years. I did part time study in the evenings. Took my levels in Biology, and Chemistry. But then my father died and I had to give that up. I had children to bring up and I couldn't spare there time,
16:19
In the mean time I carried on my part-time studies. Then later in life I took an engineering degree in refrigeration air conditioning. And I'm doing a few other subjects right now, plumbing, electrics, surveying architecture.
So you carried on learning?
Carried on learning.
What was it like working in Courtaulds?
See I started working on the staff, so for me it was reasonably well because there was no discrimination from the people, apart from the management policy was discriminating against coloured people anyway.
16:20
Just keep them on the staff level, junior staff level. They wouldn't give us promotions to higher level, senior management jobs. The general working conditions was very bad. It was a textile factory; all the cheap labour had come from Eastern European countries after the war. There was not much complaining about health and safety. We were just happy to be here. Generally in the foundries and the other engineering factories around Coventry the working condition were atrocious. Low wages, long hours, dirty working conditions. Most people wanted to make a good living and the only way they could do that was by working long hours.
16:21
There was no automatic pay rises. In the early 60's they pay used to be about 12 /15 pounds a week.
Did you support your family here or did you have to support family back in India?
I supported my family here and my grandfather and grandmother in India. I had a younger sister, she had to get married. Married her off.
Was she over here?
No she was in India. I had other cousins, nieces who had to get married off. My family had a bit of bad luck. My Aunty died, my mother died young and my brother died. So my grandfather at the age of 65 had about 10 young children to support which he couldn't support.
16:22
So I being the eldest had to support him.
That must have been very hard?
Well life isn't so easy anyway. I have no grumbles about life myself. If I had to do it again I would do it the same way.
What was is like growing up in a house full of 10 or 15 men popping in and out?
You see in them days, people used to be working most of them time.
Do you mean about here living with 10 people? You see when my aunty and me moved out; there were only about 6 of us living in that house. We had three people in lodging. We used to sleep in the front room, 3 of us.
16:23
There were two bedrooms upstairs, one was occupied by my aunty and uncle, and the other room was rented out to a Jamaican man and his wife. Unfortunately.
This was on Henrietta Street?
This was Henrietta Street. These West Indian people they never used to get married, they'd just live together. One day, early in the morning, a lodger woke up and went to the toilet
in them days most of the houses had toilets outside, there was no toilets inside, we didn't have one anyway. I can still remember a lot of houses, 5 or 6 houses used to share 2 or 3 outside toilets.
16:24
And most houses didn't have bathrooms, it used to be a trip once a week to use the local council baths.
Can you tell us a bit about that? Your journey to the baths?
Well we used to walk, used to go every Friday afternoon when it wasn't so busy. Most people would queue up after work. Most of the ladies would fill your bath and you wouldn't have a chance to refill your bath. They'd fill it half up and I can remember some of the lady's used to take the tap off the bath in case you wanted to refill it!
16:25
There would be a big line, people sitting outside the baths on the benches. Sometimes you had to wait for 2 or 3 hours before you got your turn.
Were these individual baths or communal?
There were small individual baths in. Everyone entered one at a time and you were given about 15 minutes to have you bath and get outside.
How many baths were there?
There were about 10 or 12 baths at Livingston Road. There was another one in Whitley Street next to the Theatre, after that was demolished they moved it into Corporation Road.
16:26
There used to be only two public bath places in Coventry that was all. That was how life was. Everyone queuing up. When I came here in 1956/57 there used to be trams running on the Stoney Stanton Road up to Broadgate and Hertford Street, electric trams.
Did you used to go on those?
Yes I used to go on those. There were only 2 or 3 tracks here, and near the city centre, that's it. I can remember that there used to be a local diesel train, circulating Coventry, there were not so many busses then. The street lighting was poor as well.
16:27
I can remember when I was young one chap used to come on his bicycle with a ladder, 7 or 8 stepladders and he used to come and light the gas street lights. There were not electric lights; they were the old, Doctor Who type lights you see. Used to turn the gas on and turn the lamps on. Its only 50 years ago, life has changed so much in England, people cant imagine what it was like. I t used to be smoggy all the chimneys, houses were heated by coal; it was smoggy and hard to see.
Did it feel polluted here?
16:28
There was a lot of pollution then, but nothing like we've got now. This place is pretty clean at the moment; I don't care what the environmentalists say. This place is much cleaner then other places around the world. As you will see, when you go to Indian and Pakistan you will see it there. First time I went to India, travelling from Delhi to the Punjab. The difference then was like going back in time 500 years. Like you've suddenly gone into the dessert. Then I went back 3 years later and the difference had come to about 300 years. And every time I go now 76 or years later the gap has closed to 100 years.
16:29
Now in big cities you don't see much difference, rather there is more pollution there than over here.
What did you do about food and getting groceries?
Food and groceries wasn't really a concern because I would eat whatever I could get. I wasn't strictly like Indian Punjabi foods that were cooked in the house anyway. At school I'd eat all the western foods. When I was at school I started working in a shop, packing loose dals (lentils) etc. and then you'd make deliveries to the houses, called ration.
16:30
Who did you do this for?
This was with a chap called Krishna Badwani. He's dead now; he died a long time ago, about 20 years ago now. He used to own a shop in Queen Mary's Road, first he was in Hillfields then he moved to Cross Roads. After school I used to spend 2 hours. Similar to paper round, they never used to have paper rounds in those days. They used to put the papers outside people used to take a paper and put them through the letter box in the shops. People used to be honest then, not like now. The milkman used to put the milk outside and we'd put the money fro the milkman under the empty bottles, he used to collect it.
16:31
Now people take the bloody bottles, rather than break in to the house they just steal it!!
Did you go around delivering the food to people's houses?
We used to take orders two day's before the weekend, it was more or less regular customers. We'd take the orders, get the stuff and deliver the next day. That's how we went on for many many years, till there were more and more comer shops and supermarkets being built.
How long did you do that for?
I did that for about 3 or 4 years, from the age of about 14 to 17.
16:32
Even after leaving school I used to work 5 days in the warehouse and 1 day in the ship. It complimented my wages as well as giving me something to do. We started a football team here then; because I was playing rugby we had enough people to start a team. In 1959/60 we started a small team playing on Sundays. We played under the Banner of Indian Worker's Association. We played for about 3 or 4 years. Then we had more junior kids coming and joining us then we called it the Indian Youth Club.
16:33
Then more and more people started to come. We had a team of similar people in Birmingham and we used to have a friendly match with them every 2 weeks. They would come here to Coventry and we would go over there to Birmingham. Then we formed another team in Wolverhampton and another in Leicester. Then we had 4 Indian football teams. We used to play against each other on a friendly basis. We loved it.
Where did you play?
We played in the Coventry City local fields. We played in the school playing grounds; the council hired it to us.
16:34
We used to have to pay about £2.50 per day to hire the ground. Then we had to pay the referee about £1.50 for referring. We used to do our own travelling to the grounds.
How did you do that?
Well one or two of our friends had vans so we used to go in the vans, if we couldn't we would bus it, or if the ground was near we'd work. It was quite enjoyable. The kids then didn't meddle in drugs.
16:35
There was very little smoking, none of my friends smoked, never took drugs, nothing. Not like now, there's stealing, breaking houses to support these habits. We used to occupy are time playing soccer in the park, and we used to go to the cinema. We had no videos then.
Can you tell us a little bit about the cinemas?
Our Asian cinemas started at the Plaza Cinema in Spon Street.
16:36
There used to be an Indian film once a month. All the ladies used to go for free. Every two months the cinema used to be packed, everyone used to go there.
Which year was this?
This was about 1959/60. The cinemas then, it was called the Plaza, and then they started showing films at the Savoy in Bedford. I think a chap called Kalia who started the films there. Then the Ritz was formed, in about 1966/67.
16:37
Then Mr Kalia from the Savoy also brought the Palladium. It used to be free for children under 15 years. I can remember they used to have 3 films in 3 different cinemas, because it was free when I was at school. I can remember, at half past 9, on Sundays I used to cycle to one of the cinema, watch one film, and then cycle to the other cinema and watch the 2nd show there.
You like Indian films?
I like the Indian films; I watched mostly all the all the old films. It used to be quite interesting, still are. Some of the old ones are still better than the present ones. I can still remember Mother India was one of the best films I've ever seen.
You saw that in Coventry?
That was in Coventry, a long time ago.
16:38
There was one called, Raj Kapoor's old film I think, the whole house got packed. It was called Pardesi, I don't know if you remember. It was made with Nargis and Raj Kapoor made it but it was with Nargis and this Russian actor, I can't remember his name. It was called Pardesi and the whole house got packed. I don't know if people were going to see Nargis or this Russian actor!
Have you got any other stories about the cinemas and going out, what was it like?
It used to be one outing because people didn't have much entertainment in the house there was television but not much video. But it wasn't like the televisions now; you can switch it on here and get Sony and Zee TV, Asian programmes of all kinds.
16:39
Even the main BBC and ITV have Asian programmes now, but not in them days. There was just BBC 1 and then ITV came into force in the 60's. People had nowhere to go so Sunday afternoon was their one remaining outing to the cinema. Though they used to have 3 shows; one in the afternoon 12.00pm, one at 4.00pm and one in the evening at 7.00pm. Most people, the 4.00pm show used to be packed. Because the ladies had don't their housework in the morning, and the men went out for a drink in the afternoon, and 4.00pm it was the cinema!! After that we'd come home and make the dinner for the evening.
16:40
The cinemas really declined after when the video's started coming onto the market. Now they are coming back again.
What other socialising did you do?
Well, it was work and while I was young it was mainly the playing fields. As I grew up it was the weekend cinemas. Then I got busy I never had much time, it was usually just work and in the evenings television.
Did you mix much with the English people here?
I think throughout my career I mixed with all sorts of people.
16:41
But not close enough with the English communities, it was just work wise, it was ok. We used to be quite friendly with the Asian community here so we had no problem gathering, socialising. It was a quite experience.
What about going to pubs, did you mix with English people there?
Only a few, very few, playing cards and darts and things like that. We'd get drunk and come home to be honest. Then I started taking part in politics, more drinking and socialising and discussing community problems.
16:42
Personally, everybody knows I am conservative, I believe in conservatism. Whereas we had the Indian Workers Association here and there used to be the communist parties up till about 1984/5 there used to be a separate Asian Labour Party or Social Party. We had the Anglo-Asian Conservative Party in 1980 - 83 I was the general secretary for the Anglo-Asian Conservative Society in Coventry. Then they started to amalgamate all the separate groups into the main line parties so there was no need for the separate Asian community.
16:43
Then we started, I'll show you the paperwork, and we started forming the, I'll show you afterwards. The main Anglo-Asian Conservative Society's offices were in London. Then we started forming branches all over England, to start to persuade other like-minded people to join us.
A big mission?
It took a little bit of persuading. In Coventry we had about 500 people, which was reasonable at that time.
16:44
There were other people who were really Labour party, rather than conservative but they would come along to our meeting just to support us. People from the Asian or British communist party people have all gone into the Labour party.
Why do you think people joined the IWA?
It was like an Asian Union, where you could get support if you encountered any problems. I can remember in the early 60's there was a lot of discrimination in Pubs and Clubs, in social private clubs black people weren't allowed in there.
16:45
People joined the union at work, and if they had clubs there and they encountered discrimination they used to complain to their chairman or secretary. It took a lot of persuading before these clubs let people in.
Do you think people joined for the benefits of the IWA rather than the actual ideology?
As far as I can remember there was no benefit for them, not as direct from the IWA. I can't remember myself and I had association with members of the IWA but there was no direct benefit to them.
16:46
Other than the monthly meetings, and the donation fee and the annual conference. They'd gather together for socialising and food and drink. Other than that I can't see any direct benefit for them.
It's interesting because its founded in Coventry in 1938 I think it was, and it has quite a lot of appeal amongst the old people that were here, yet it still has its leftist leanings yet. It seems a funny sort of organisation for people to support.
I wasn't old enough, but I knew a lot of people in the IWA.
16:47
It was formed a long time ago; I don't think there's anybody alive now out of the original members. It was formed by our Indian Minister Mr Krishna Mennen; he came here before the world war.
Anant Ram is the other founding member.
Anant Ram here in Coventry?
Yes
I knew most of the older people belonged to the IWA, they had a membership they used to contribute but they never took any active part in it, it was I think Krishna Mennen who became the Foreign Secretary after the Independence with Mr Nehru. He came here and started dealing with the IWA.
16:48
I just remember Mr. Nehru's sister when she was our first Indian High Commission in London. She came over to Coventry a long time ago.
Where you there?
I remember her, I'll give you some pictures, my aunty's got some pictures of here when she came. She came on the train actually, Coventry Station. A couple of girls greeted here with bouquets. Mr. Rajmal Singh who's dead now, is the unsung hero of Coventry he did a lot for the Asian Community in Coventry.
16:49
He was the first man who raised his voice, took up our problems with the councillors and the community local government committees, to give them their basic rights. He used to work at the Herbert Factory, which used to be along here in Cross Roads. They never used to have our Asian people on the machines; they were all sweeping, cleaning the machines, or sweeping the floors. He got them to do the machine work. He fought with the Coventry Transport people, to get an Asian driver on the transport. There was a chap called, Amrik his name was. He used to live in Churchill Avenue.
16:50
He was the first Asian person to get a conductor's job.
Do you remember what year that was?
That was about 65/66. I remember that was the time the first Asian person to get a job as a conductor on the Coventry City busses. Never mind having a turban and that lot, he was a clean shaven but he started as a conductor. Before that they wouldn't have an Asian person on the busses. Some parts of England they wouldn't even allow Asian people on the busses.
Did you feel that yourself?
No, as I grew up there was a bit of relaxation; I could get on the buses! But job wise there was a lot if discrimination, in employment there was a lot of discrimination.
16:51
Did you start to feel at home here or did you miss home?
Well as I came over here as a young person, it was very difficult for me to decide which was my home. This is my home now, although I have distant relatives living in India. I go and visit them every year now more or less. Sometimes 1 or 2 trips a year. I have friends in Delhi, I had a friend in Kathmandu, unfortunately he's passed away, 2 or 3 years ago, but I used to go and visit him. I suppose that's how life has passed.
So this is home?
This is home; whatever people say I still find that England is one of the best country's to live in.
16:52
I've travelled all over the world, there very few places which are left now, but I still think that this is one of the best places to live. I don't care what other people may say; they have their own ideas. But still this is it, I still live here.
Been here a long time now
Yeah, well almost all my life. India's all right, it's ok, not too bad.
I think one of the things that, whilst just interviewing is that some of the people that where a bit older when they came here find it a bit difficult to accept life here, they accept it but there's still this sort of, 'Punjab', but they go to Punjab and Punjab isn't home either because they don't fit in there, but they don't fit in here either. It's quite sad to come across people who seem to be in an almost void. They're neither at home there or here.
16:53
From my personal experience, the people that were slightly older than I was, they came over here and they worked very hard. They perpetuated most of their money to their relatives, brother and sisters in India. When they went back to India and they started looking around, trying to get there share of the family land, the family conflicts stared. They were either cheated or they got nothing out of it.
16:54
Then they got disappointed with their life in India. Then they came back here and started realising. Some of them where shocked and had nervous breakdowns and some had complete heart failures. See, all of their life savings had gone. I can say, that most people know, there isn't even one that hasn't been cheated by his family in India. I would like to come across one who says he's very happy with his family or relatives or other members of the community that he's associated with. Although they may have money there, it's their cunning that puts us off.
16:55
When you go over there they still want to cheat you. They might have enough money but they'll never have enough to share. It's always your pocket they want to pinch.
It's really hard, like you say they worked very hard and they sent a lot of money back home, then they go back and there's nothing.
Some people sent all their savings. Then when they realise here those there families and their children here. They got disappointed, what they were looking for, the close relative's love and affection were gone and they haven't done anything for their families over here, their children, daughters, sons. Now they find they're revolting against them.
16:56
It's the revulsion that's putting them in more, our Asian people, nervous breakdowns. They can't see what they've done. To their ability they've done the best for the whole family, but they are disappointed because they've got no fruit. Their children here are disappointed because their parents have sent all their money back home rather than giving them a better life here. Those who have just come to their senses, they've forgotten what was back home and have said ok we've made a mistake, were going to start building our life up here. That's how people have moved on to bigger houses better living, rather than sending their money back home to India, Asia.
16:57
So how many children do you have?
I had 3 children, 3 sons, I've got 2 now, and one of them died, the eldest one, 10 years ago. My son used to be an engineer, pilot; he used to play music, very nice kid. Then he developed cancer and within 12 months he died. My two sons, ones a general manager for Sancua Pharmaceutical Company. He's qualified in Pharmacology, he's done his masters degree and B.A. the other one he's done his BSC in engineering and his doing financial consultancy now.
16:58
They're doing well.
They're looking after themselves.
Can I just ask you; are you a Jat, Sikh?
I'm a Ramgharia.